As far as I remember, Smith is just a program in the Matrix. He did his reprogramming in the Matrix. I think that disqualifies him from this fight. Furthermore, he only reprogrammed things directly connected to the Matrix. He was also not exactly on the side of the machines either. It has been a long time since I saw any of those movies though, so I could be mistaken.
Thats what we saw, but its also implied that whatever gets reprogrammed in the Matrix gets reprogrammed in the real world.
And even though he was reprogramming in the Matrix, the machines still considered him a real world threat.
The biggest factor here (in the reprogramming war) I think is Smith. The matrix could not stop him, they needed Neo to reset Smith, and smith was one of the Matrix’s own programs.
So it wasn’t that the matrix wrote it’s programs to have free will but that they had some “operational” wiggle room.
They all still did what they were programmed for (for the most part) they just went about doing it in different ways. Those programs that chose to leave or do something else could hide out in the matrix, for generations apparently (Merovingian comes to mind) and the matrix couldn’t even find them. So what’s it going to do if Skynet infiltrates the matrix?
As far as for smith reprogramming a terminator he has to survive the meeting first. It’s not like the terminator is connected to the network, it is a self-contained battle unit. In order to re-program it you have to access the microchip inside it’s titanium skull. Something Smith could only do once he is outside the matrix and in a body. If this body just happens to be a human then he is toast. If he download himself to a battle unit or something he stands a better change, but he still has to pry open the terminator’s skull. Not sure if this is even possible in regards to the T-1000.
Smith basically reprogrammed all human minds (and quite possibly the program minds) in the matrix.
The matrix is an essential part of the human battery, without it humans cannot be grown and harvested for energy probably because the human mind rejects the matrix and wakes up (I think) so without the matrix no human batteries.
No human batteries and eventually the machines run out of power.
Now I know that the two armies are fighting each other but are the odds really that big of a difference? The Matrix armies are tight groups around human farms because this is where they have to recharge and that is where they are needed. Humans hide in Zion and can’t survive anywhere else so the free humans are all in one place.
Then you have the terminator armies. Armies that have to spread out and find humans hiding all over the world. and when you see engagements there are still lots of terminators on the ground in the air and in the waters. Plus they have advanced weapon systems.
So if the two armies are to converge who’s side would be larger? Then who have the more advance weapons as well?
To me I think the Terminators would win due to the fact they are designed more around combat then the Machine army of the Matrix. Not to mention that the Terminators use laser rifles. Something that easily penetrates even the armors of the terminators with ease.
keep in mind that we didnt see many Machine combat units because the machines already WON a world war against the humans and wiped out all their advanced weapons. they then also completely eradicated every free human on the planet 5 TIMES IN A Row. the models they have now are the most efficient human killers. but we also between the animatrix and the matrix movies… not seen every model. we HAVE seen all of the Terminators, though. and they WERE defeated by the humans…..with advanced weapons. so on one hand we have the Terminators who was defeated by the humans even after nuking the world. and then we have the machines who have dominated the planet and beaten the humans 6 times over several hundred years.
Is that when the Machines went to war against the Humans, they already had a large powerbase. The Machine City 01 was recognized as an independent nation that distributed products across the world.
Skynet, on the other hand, had to basically build its army from scratch. So as Skynet was building and refining its forces, the Humans were organizing their resistance.
keep in mind that we didnt see many Machine combat units because the machines already WON a world war against the humans and wiped out all their advanced weapons. they then also completely eradicated every free human on the planet 5 TIMES IN A Row. the models they have now are the most efficient human killers. but we also between the animatrix and the matrix movies… not seen every model. we HAVE seen all of the Terminators, though. and they WERE defeated by the humans…..with advanced weapons. so on one hand we have the Terminators who was defeated by the humans even after nuking the world. and then we have the machines who have dominated the planet and beaten the humans 6 times over several hundred years.
According to all possible sources, what we see in the movies, games and comics ARE the combat units.
Basically, The sentinels, the giant city defenders (that fire sentinels), the drone bombs that Sentinels can deploy, the runner scouts.
Even in Second Renessiance, by the time the war ended, we only see Sentinels and giant Harvesters deployed by the Machines
The free humans were eradicated 5 times in a row because IT WAS ALL PLANNED.
The Machines knew exactly how to eradicate, when, where etc. It was all planned down to the exact number of Sentinels required for complete victory.
Against Skynet, the machines do not have that advantage.
keep in mind that we didnt see many Machine combat units because the machines already WON a world war against the humans and wiped out all their advanced weapons. they then also completely eradicated every free human on the planet 5 TIMES IN A Row. the models they have now are the most efficient human killers. but we also between the animatrix and the matrix movies… not seen every model. we HAVE seen all of the Terminators, though. and they WERE defeated by the humans…..with advanced weapons. so on one hand we have the Terminators who was defeated by the humans even after nuking the world. and then we have the machines who have dominated the planet and beaten the humans 6 times over several hundred years.
Note that even if the humans won they didn’t do it on their own. They had help from a second sentient AI that has morals and was helping the humans. This is more explained in the TV series. But remember these humans also had the advanced weapons that where developed by skynet.
Then there is the fact that Skeynet can just launch more nukes using the emp to take out the Machine army. The terminators seem to be immune to the emp. Then comes the whole t-1000 series that are very difficult to destroy.
in the second renaissance, the humans nuked the machines. it had little effect. in fact it sparked the war.
Yet you clearly see the hover ships charging the emps and shutting down the machines. hmmmm, so where did you see that in the movies that the humans nuked the machine army?
Yet you clearly see the hover ships charging the emps and shutting down the machines. hmmmm, so where did you see that in the movies that the humans nuked the machine army?
its in Second renaissance, part of Animatrix.
And yes, its canon and not a divergent timeline
But is a nuke’s emp the same as the one deployed by the Hovercraft?
It is entirely possible that the Machines of 01 took shelter within EMP shielded facilities before the strikes. They knew that tensions were rising, and if they were unable to properly shield themselves, making EMP hardened shelters would have been a logical tactic.
However, I must ask if machines that are designed to transmit/receive are more vulnerable to EMP than machines that are not. If so, that could be a critical difference between Skynet’s Machines and the Matrix Machines. If Terminators and H/Ks operate in a stand alone state, their CPUs could be more protected than those of Sentinels.
...and all of that is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, considering despite the humans use of emp weapons… THEY STILL LOST! THEY STILL WERE ERADICATED 6 TIMES IN A ROW! It would take little effort for the machines, who excell in biotech on a level more advanced that skynet (save perhaps nanotech), to reverse engineer a skynet model terminator and use it against them. SKYNET attacked the planet and lost it. the machines virtually wiped out the human race and are still in control of the planet.
