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HG gave them what they want….Now you will see everyones true colors
Posted: 24 July 2003 04:06 PM   [ # 16 ]  
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These versions leave out certain chapters, since they were never meant to be complete. Instead they were designed to be a english teaching aid for Japanese students.

So, unless you understand Japanese, your damned if you do, damned if you dont.

Mind you I’m not very fluent (who am I kidding, I’m barely know the language), but managed to muddle my way through the original manga

How about those “translated” versions on cd from ebay? Are those any good?

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Posted: 24 July 2003 06:08 PM   [ # 17 ]  
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Hey all!

Apollo Leader:


So far, Big West’s position in this entire deal has not been mentioned… Tokyo Pop possibly got their true license from Big West, but have now wussed out and are paying Harmony Gold’s “ransom” money in order for HG to “look the other way”.

Yes you are correct Big West position in this deal has NOT been mentioned.  I firmly belive that ToykoPop did get the licence from Big West. Tommy,at the HG panel, said that HG authorized the release by TokyoPop. He did NOT say HG issued the licence. I think you are correct that TokyoPop landed the rigts to M7 from BW.

Where I disagree with you is this:

but have now wussed out and are paying Harmony Gold’s “ransom” money in order for HG to “look the other way”.

We do not know what the terms of this deal is. Nor do we know how it came about. I would suggest that you not immedatly jump to the conclusion that some nefarious is afoot. Lets hear what ALL the parties (Harmony Gold, TokyoPop and Big West) have to say about this.

To me this deal says that HG is willing to deal as long its rights are protected…Also this could be the stepping stone to future deals with other companies for other products…

Lets wait and see what the companies say…It could very well be that this does have the approval of Big West…

WHITE DREW CAREY: Hey man it would not be true debate without your opinion….

As to your points…

 

A) If, as HG claims, they do own the international rights to Macross, why would Tpop have to get a license from Bigwest? Bigwest, according to HG, has no rights outside of Japan. Tpop would have to have gone to HG directly

Remember this is comming from Japan…So you got to get the rights from BW for M7 (we do not know what the memorandum says about sequels…). Tommy clearly said that HG authorized the release by TokyoPop. Which proves my thoery that the dervitces infringe on HG copyright (even tho it is a separate show) thus you need clearance from HG to release it and that is exactly what TokyoPop has done.

B) “Cooperating”. Cooperation could mean many things. One way it can be construed is that a person is “cooperating” against their better wishes. Although HG has posted, word for word, Tokyopop’s press release, I see no mention in that release that states Tokyopop actually licensed from HG (something you’ll usually see). It could be (notice I mentioned “could”) that HG is cooperating because it’s better to go along than to say you fought something tooth and nail only to lose.

As I stated before (accoriding to Tommy Yune statemant at the panel) HG has not issued the licence rather authoriaed the release. WDC you are correct we do not what the cooperation is between HG and TokyoPop…However I would not jump to the conclusion that it is done under duress….TokyoPop is around they go to conventions lets hear what they have to say before we make that assumption.

True, it would be an amazing feat indeed if all parties involved came to an agreement. But I think we shouldn’t come to conclusions too quickly just yet.

I understand Drew…I’m all for this deal. I have a feeling (yes only a feeling) that this was done in a positive manner rather than a negivitve manner. I fully support this…I hope those on the other side do the same….


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Posted: 24 July 2003 09:12 PM   [ # 18 ]  
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“Co-operate” is a VERY broad term.

It could range from HG getting royalties, or just some fine print saying “Macross is a registered trademark….”

Take home message:  NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THE THREE PARTIES KNOWS WHAT’S GOING ON.

So folks, let’s wait and see what happens, because there’s going to be a lot of things happening from now, till the launch date; which I think is at LEAST 6 months away, if not more.

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Posted: 24 July 2003 10:39 PM   [ # 19 ]  
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“And a big new announcement for this Comic-Con. We’re very, very pleased to announce that ToykoPop, starting next April, ToykoPop will start releasing Haruhiko Mikimoto’s popular Japanese manga series Macross 7 Trash.  Many of you may have picked up the Japanese or French Mangas from different sources, but here we are very, very happy to finally announce an authorized English language release for the U.S. market.”

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Posted: 25 July 2003 01:32 AM   [ # 20 ]  
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I’m glad to see that something is being attempted to finally bring some of the original Macross products out of Japan legally! wink

Anyone who complains about HG this and HG that really needs to brush that chip off of their shoulder. I’m not saying HG is an angel, but if it’ll get Macross products over here, then I’m all for it. I could care less what deal HG and TokyoPop have, nor would I care what deal HG and any other company that produces Macross products have. If it’ll bring over Macross products and future Macross prodects, then that’s what ultimately counts.

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