At this point I wouldn’t care if the show was stereotyped like G.I. Joe, Top Gun, and every other action/sci-fi movie know to man. I just would like to see HG finally finish something they started and do something with Robotech before I’m a grandparent.

I agree with Ripley.

Robotech WAS far more than the average cartoon BECAUSE of STORY and CHARACTERS.

Mainly the scenario was more complex and the characters were explored in more depth than typical american animations.

I have said this before: better no new Robotech if new means dumbed-down (characters and story) or lower quality (designs and animation).

Shadow chronicles, despite beautiful CGI backgrounds, and LLA did not meet the criteria.

It did not help that the Macross saga seemed ignored.

Mayber Robotech Academy will talk in some parts about how Dana Sterling got enlisted! <3

When you said this, that’s STEREOTYPE!

That’s not a stereotype.

Do you really think every military jet pilot is like or suppose to be like Maia and Marcus?! Then, that ain’t cool.

Maybe you didn’t like Maia and Marcus, but there was nothing wrong or unrealistic depicting them as fighter pilots confident in their own abilities with maybe some competition between them.

For a change, how about the actual (unsuspected/unexpected) hero ‘seems’ just an average but humble pilot cadet though not the main character(s).

How can the hero of a series not be the main character?
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But beneath the apparent plainness of the person, there’s more than meets the eye. This hero then became the ideal of the main character(s).

Maybe for narrative, all accounts of this hero is told from the main character(s) perspective.

You mean another Rick Hunter? In the beginning of the Macross Saga, Roy Fokker was the ace veritech fighter pilot while Rick was a circus pilot.

just wanted to ask what was said at the NY convention?, surely at least a hint about anything new?.  After all, it was the last convention of the year in the tour.  Perhaps something about Robotech: Academy, the new comic, music, RPG, etc.?

Actually, the only gung ho pilot in Robotech was Ben Dixon. We all know where he wound up. Which is a nice lesson for everyone.

The fact that Roy also bought it, against a stronger foe, taught us that no one is immune to the ravages of war. Another great Robotech lesson.

That’s part of what I meant when I said SC was dumbed down.

I always thought that Marcus Rush was actually a bit of a complex character, mainly because he was both racist and likable. lol

I definatley think that character is a large part of it all - it’s what set the show apart. I do hope that they get it right, is all I’ll say.

That’s not a stereotype, that’s how many fighter pilots actually are because of what they do. They’re taught to think of themselves as being the best of the best.

Just because many military pilots share common attitude, you generalize EVERYONE of them the same; THAT’S STEREOTYPING! There’s nothing wrong about humility, while being conscious of one’s great aptitude. In fact, it would help the person garner more reverence from others by his unselfish demeanour.

Maybe you didn’t like Maia and Marcus, but there was nothing wrong or unrealistic depicting them as fighter pilots confident in their own abilities with maybe some competition between them.

Confidence is one thing; but being NOISY about something is really annoying! For a change, let’s have some character where whatever grievances he/she may have they keep it to themselves. Don’t show it. Be cool and professional about it. You can hate the sins but love the sinner!

I always thought that Marcus Rush was actually a bit of a complex character, mainly because he was both racist and likable. lol

INDEED NOT! Marcus Rush is actually a SIMPLETON! No character appeal AT ALL! Even his name ain’t cool!

With regard to Maia, doesn’t she have any hobby or childhood preferences. The whole time Shadow Chronicle is played out, all she ever said was ONLY meaningless words! Why can’t the writer spare a few minutes (5 minutes at least) to allow the viewer to have some intimate moment with her alone. The same goes for Marcus. I don’t think 5 minutes is too expensive to spend?!

How can the hero of a series not be the main character?

And why not?! B-)

You mean another Rick Hunter? In the beginning of the Macross Saga, Roy Fokker was the ace veritech fighter pilot while Rick was a circus pilot.

Rick is the MAIN STAR HERO and the focal point! Roy Fokker is just the CO-STAR working on the sideline! Let’s switch them for a change; the CO-STAR is the HERO of the story while the MAIN STAR is only a spectator. How about it? B-)

Just because many military pilots share common attitude, you generalize EVERYONE of them the same; THAT’S STEREOTYPING!

That’s NOT stereotyping. It’s a common/not unusual personality trait found among people of a certain profession.

And why not?!

Because he wouldn’t be either, that’s why.

Rick is the MAIN STAR HERO and the focal point! Roy Fokker is just the CO-STAR working on the sideline! Let’s switch them for a change; the CO-STAR is the HERO of the story while the MAIN STAR is only a spectator. How about it?

But then Rick wouldn’t be MAIN STAR HERO and the focal point if they were switched.

so what is plan B?

...I believe it may involve, ‘New media’ 

Whatever media…

If the artistic direction fails to give us a satisfying continuation of the 3 generations of characters before introducing new kiddie ones…

If they can’t deliver top-quality animation (at least pachinko-Macross level)...

If they can’t have a real mecha/ships/character design from Japan or equivalent quality…

If they can’t secure the rights to the existing designs and races from the 3 original shows and thus be able to add continuity and cohesiveness to Robotech…

Then I fear the end result will be the same as this Kickstarter.

If the artistic direction fails to give us a satisfying continuation of the 3 generations of characters before introducing new kiddie ones…

If they can’t deliver top-quality animation (at least pachinko-Macross level)...

If they can’t have a real mecha/ships/character design from Japan or equivalent quality…

If they can’t secure the rights to the existing designs and races from the 3 original shows and thus be able to add continuity and cohesiveness to Robotech…

Then I fear the end result will be the same as this Kickstarter.

What made the original series great was that it created this interesting and diverse universe and at the same time was not afraid to completely switch gears and move on from one set of characters to another. On that note, identifying the continued lives of these characters, particularly to the later two sagas, has always been a responsibility of spin-off media. However, it is a stretch to say that attempting to move on to a new cast would be far from the heart of the show, or that the show should focus directly on the characters of old. Even Robotech II, which was to feature Macross Saga characters heavily, knew that new creations were needed to keep it afloat - thus, Jack and Karen. If this show is to work, it needs to do just what it is currently doing; introduce a young group that will become the audience. I fail to see how the 17-year-old Lyndsay will be any worse or better than 16-year-old Rick or 16-year-old-Rook (Okay, to be fair, I’m using the ages from the Japanese version there…).

As for the designs, the only ones which HG has not been able to get their hands on are the Macross ones - and that mainly falls to a behind-closed-doors decision made with the Japanese companies not to use them in order to not confuse Macross fans. That descision was made in 1986, which is why the designs in RII and R:TSC touch on Macross aspects without actually using them - which works because both are set in the later two eras. There has never been an issue with Southern Cross or GCM designs.

Macross in Japan has moved light years from the original show. No more Rick, Lisa, Minmei, Breetai or Power armors, battle pods etc…

Robotech and especially Sentinels can be even better now if HG can trade for the Macross designs it couldn’t use. Bait? International distribution rights for Macross.